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Altos 5-15 A/D
| Description | |
| Manufacturer | International Business Machines Corporation |
| Model | 5150 (IBM PC) |
| Date Announced | 1981 |
| Date Canceled | 1987 |
| Number Produced | Hundreds of thousands+ |
| Country of Origin | USA |
| Price | Approximately $1,600 base |
| Current Value | $50-$500 |
| Specifications | |
| Processor | Intel 8088 |
| Speed | 4.77 MHz |
| RAM | 16K-640K |
| ROM | Unknown |
| Storage | Cassette Tape, optionally 5.25" floppy drives, hard disks |
| Expansion | 5 expansion slots |
| Bus | Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) |
| Video | Initially CGA (320x200x16 color, 640x200x2 color) or monochrome (80x25 text only)) |
| I/O | Parallel, Serial |
| OS Options | PC-DOS (MS-DOS), CP/M-86 |
| Notes | The IBM PC was introduced in 1981 to much fanfare in the computer industry. IBM, being the biggest computer company of all time to that point, helped legitimize the PC revolution by participating in it. |
| Related Items in Collection | Tons of manuals, software, magazines, DOS 1.0, CP/M-86, other PC compatibles including Compaq Portable,IBM PC AT and IBM PC Convertible. |
| Related Items Wanted | IBM PC XT, IBM PCjr, additional software. |
IBM introduced its Personal Computer to much fanfare on August 12th, 1981. The PC was developed in an astoundingly short time (under 1 year) by a "skunkworks" project at IBM's Boca Raton Florida facility.
One significant reason for the rapid development cycle was the use of "off the shelf" parts for things like disk drives, processors, memory and the like.
Another "off the shelf" component used on the PC was IBM's Operating System software - PC DOS. This product was licensed from Microsoft after the IBM development team were unable to secure a license for CP/M. The use of Microsoft's product on this machine helped catapult an already successful company into its current dominant position.
The PC pictured here is one of two in my collection. This is an original PC variant with a 64K motherboard (as opposed to the later 256K motherboards) and version 1.0 ROMs. It normally has a color graphics adaptor (CGA) and an IBM 5153 Color Monitor as well as a multi-function card and some other accessories although the Monochrome monitor (IBM 5151) and IBM Monochrome/Printer Adapter card are probably more correct for the machine. The system has a full suite of original IBM documentation including the 1.0 versions of DOS, BASIC and the IBM PC Guide to Operations.
I have lots of original software from IBM and other sources including CP/M-86, VisiCalc, PFS:Write and much of the original IBM library of games and educational software including the BASIC Primer, Typing Tutor, Adventure and the "Microsoft Decathlon."
I also have the IBM PC Technical Reference and IBM PC Maintenance and Service manuals.
The other PC in my collection is a later model with a Monochrome card and an IBM 5151 Monochrome monitor.
Both of my PCs have all of their original manuals, as shown here. The three manuals to the right are all 1.0 versions, including DOS 1.0 with the original DOS disk.
The IBM PC Keyboard was a very sturdy, well designed 83 key model that had far better key placement and a better feel than any other low-cost computer of its day. IBM did everything they could to sell the ideas of "professional" and "sturdy" with their machines and they succeeded without question. Even the function keys were a hit!
IBM made the PC with as many off-the-shelf parts as possible. That didn't stop them from stamping them with their name and logo, though. This is a standard Tandon 5.25" disk drive except for that IBM logo.
IBM sold the original PCs for around $1,600, but that was just an advertising price for the 16K system unit with a keyboard. Once you added a video adapter, some RAM and a disk drive or two you could easily climb to double that price. My first PC was purchased by my father and cost nearly $2,800. It had a single disk drive and 64K of RAM with a CGA card to be hooked into my TV set. I eventually got a black and white composite monitor so I could see 80 columns and a Quadram Quadboard that allowed me to expand the PC to nearer its 544K limit.
IBM did an all-out media blitz with the introduction of the PC. The card above is one of several I collected from local computer stores while waiting for my PC and it is one of the few advertising items that didn't feature Charlie Chaplin whose visage IBM licensed to represent their machine.
Perhaps my favorite aspect of this original IBM PC is the fact that I still have my DOS 1.0 manual and disk with it.
DOS 1 was such a crude and simple operating system as compared to later versions or even CP/M. It was, however, easy to learn and starting from 1.0 meant that I only needed to learn a bit of new stuff with each iteration.
DOS 1.0 did have a nasty math bug, though, that was fixed by a patch - version 1.05. I've got a copy of that as well. IBM never officially released that version, however. It was just a bridge version until 1.10 could be shipped with the fix and some new features.
On boot DOS would ask for the date and then drop you to an A> prompt. There was no colon and there was no C> because the original PC wouldn't support hard drives or sub directories.
The PC also didn't have any sort of BIOS configuration utility. The system was configured by setting up a couple of sets of dip switches on the motherboard. One switch indicated whether you had a monochrome or color card installed. The one next to it indicated the default video mode (40 or 80 column.) Others set memory size.
As compared to today's multi-gigahertz, multi-gigabyte machines the original PC is crude and primitive.
But with its introduction in August of 1981 the world of personal computers was forever changed. The PC effectively killed CP/M and the S-100 bus and many of the companies that supported them, although those technologies clearly lived on for quite a while past 1981. Microsoft's shrewd decisions with regards to the DOS licensing agreement allowed them to sell DOS to other companies who produced PC clones. With every PC went DOS and with every copy of DOS Microsoft's dominance grew.
With the PC Intel went from being just another player competing with Zilog and Motorola to being the undisputed king of PC processors for two decades and probably more. In fact, much of the technology from the original PC lives on today as legacy support in the latest Microsoft operating systems.
Even when that's no longer the case the PC will still stand in the PC hall of fame next to other influential and landscape-altering machines such as the MITS Altair 8800 and Apple Macintosh.
Looking for a VGA card or EGA card that can connect to a Nec Multisync 3D Monitor or VGA Monitor with a 15 pin. For use in a IBM 5150 8 Bit Slot.
Thanks!
I've an old 5150 which had spent the past few years up the loft in a box. I recently decided to put it back in use, but found it to be quite dead. The power supply is fine, but the motherboard seems to have given up. Does anyone know of anywhere, preferably in the UK, where I can find parts for this great computer?
On a philosophical note, I would dare say the green monochrome display is so ingrained in our collective (sub)consciousness that it has become the defacto symbol of the cyber-culture as represented by the Matrix' movies.
I have a 5150 ibm with all the goodies that was sold at the time however i do not have any of the original software. I am in hope of locating a complete set so i can phase this machine back into service again. I like to just toy with it for the sake of staying up to date with the old school techno. if anyone is interested in selling their old software please e mail me at jjohnson0768fla@comcast.net by the way i love this website its nice to know i am not the only ibm junkie around i have the comple collection from the 5150 on up to the p3 systems my 300pl is a workhorse. thanks jim
What I would like to know is can I boot up my IBM PC model 25 Type 8525 with the new software or programms or use any new component on it ex.keyboard and mouse. Thaks
I have a clone of one of these made by a company called LanPar. It had a 20MB MFM HDD, 2 800k halfhigh 3.5 floppies and 640k of ram with the 8088N i think. I can send you some pictures if you like.
i think the green monchrome monitors look great. im not sure if this is a stupid question, but would a monitor such as the 5151 work with a recent pc (running a recent version of dos or other command line interface). thanks
I also have this original 1981 system, probably a large volume of the documentation as well... 640k ram, I just don't have the ability to care for the beast any longer and am seeking a good home for it... anyone willing to pay for shipping can have it.. feel free to contact me
I have a 128kb IBM PC Jr, and a Jr Mate. I am considering selling it, does anyone know about how much it is worth today?
This is so Cool, i wish i can boot this one up... wonder how long it will take! LOL cool PC.
we have a 1980 IBM PC with all of the manuals
Hi! I have this machine and would like some advice on how much it is worth st todays prices? 13.09.2007 Thank you.Andrew
I have a bunch of parts. I have pics here on my friends site (temporary location) until I get my SSH FTP password problem resolved for my own site. http://aniresentertainment.com/5150.html I have software too. I was going to fix my old 5150 to tinker with but thinking of selling everything. I just don't have the spare time like I used to. :-(
Aaron
Great article! I have one question though that I can't find the answer to. Does anybody know when IBM stopped supporting it?
I'm writing a history article and this and other old technology support dates are of interest to me but very hard to come by. Also if you know when major companies closed support to some machines like Macintosh 128k, etc. please, drop me an e-mail.
I notice above you mention this,
Quadram Quadboard that allowed me to expand the PC to nearer its 544K limit.
actually, if you had the 6 pack + it would let you upgrade it to 640k ram and a 20MB hard drive.
Hi there,
I need the manuals which came with versions 1 and 2 of MS-DOS. If somebody has these documents scanned and does want to share them, please let me know.
Thanks
i am looking for the hard drive for IBM PC5150. requiredfor the laboratory system which requires watsmart motion analysis system. any one has it please help.
I have an original IBM PC, father worked for IBM, was one of the first off of the production line. Monitor, keyboard, and PC Unit.
Let me know what this may be worth please...I am in the Silicon Valley area...If you can pick it up I will knock off a huge chunk from the current market for these vintage PC's.
Everything works...
I am a IT Instructor and we have many legacy parts for just about everything, we are willing to sell or trade so that maybe the students can bring some of these systems back from the dead. We like to revive these legacy systems and then donate them to folks that cannot afford to buy much more expensive systems.
I have an IPM PC that I purchase and am looking to sell. I removed one ot the floppy drives and replaced it with a 10MB hard drive. Still works great. Plenty of software loaded including Lotus 123 and Wordperfect. Configuration is as follows:
IBM PC with 1 floppy and 10MB hd Color Monitor AST 6 pack to increase memory tp 640k and graphics card. Keyboard All original documentation.
Please advise how much you will be willing to spend.
Thank you. Emil
I have genuine IBM Industrial Computer Technical Reference manuals vols 1, 2 and 3. Gives logic and BIOS lsitings of CGA, EGA and other PC expansion cards, diskettes and 10 and 20 Meg hard drives.
Heavy in good IBM binders, offers? These are gold dust!
I have the same PC but generic QUADCHROME monitor. It was working fine but when I tried it the other day it doesnt boot up. I think is the power supply. where can I get a replacement power supply??
thxs
I bought my first IBM pc in 1981. It cost $6,000! It had a 20MB hard drive which was built by someone other than IBM. It had a uni- directional Epson printer (MX-100), a monochrome monitor. I found some company in Boise, Idaho that sold me an indexing system for BASIC, since IBM's BASIC had no way to directly access a file other than by record #.
The DOS language had a quirk. When you keyed the FORMAT command, if you forgot to key the drive letter (A: or B:), the darn thing would default to C: which was of course the hard drive. Did that a couple times before I stopped making that mistake.
I programmed it at my office. I was taking it to the customer so I carried it out to my car, lost my grip and dropped it on my foot. It broke my big toe.
looking for older pentium and back cpus complete not for collecting but for project regarding functionality of older systems esspecially ibms. I have operinional 486, p1,p2,p3 systems by ibm all running w all original parts. I am willing to pay for shipping on parts if no complete systems in your possesion note must be ibm type fru nums on parts. thx j0768
Cool!
I finding IBM PC DOS 1.00 and MS-DOS 1.00 Help me please!!! :( Send me original boot disk 1st DOS version!
See yahhh!
I have this computer and I would like to sell it. I will sell it for a cheap price, it hasn't been used much at all. Please contact me thru e- mail- wadhwa5@sbcglobal.net
I don't supose anyone knows what the pin connections are for this screen??
i dont know what to say about the computer that was created years ago but the computers have changed a great deal!
5150 and all which using 8bit bus, can use 8-bit VGA card. and dont be worry if you can't find any of those CGA or Hercules.
I'm looking for schematics for IBM PC 5150, if any body has it or willing to scan for me I would like to compensate it fairly.
Thank you in advance
I have an IBM 5150 FOR SALE (COMPLETE) ASKING $1000.00 NOTE COLLECTORS ITEMS VERY CLEAN, EXCELLANT CONDITION,,, SEND INQURIES TO codygreek64@yahoo.com
Erik: Great site - Please let me know if anyone is interested in a complete, all original IBM PC Model 5150 in the early 16K RAM-on-motherboard configuration with all the original/correct period cartons, receipts, IBM components/accessories including keyboard, CGA card, color monitor, floppy drive controller, full set of manuals/user guides in slip covers (including MSDOS 1.0, Tech Ref Manual, etc) - Still works perfectly! I bought this used in 1983 and am the second owner...it is like NOS condition - It came with one Tandem floppy drive and I bought a second one from some kid in Austin, TX dorm room named Dell...he helped me install it over the phone! I am interested in selling complete PC package including later additions of expansion memory board (Tekmar) & RAM, Seagate 10 MB drive & controller, Hayes-type modem and tons more proto- nerd hardware, software, discs and manuals. Email adddy above - Thx! Eric
Do you know any website that gives for download the *.pdf files for the books you just showed in the pictures?
Oh man, that is so cool...I wish I was alive back then. :(
The 'i' in Macintosh isn't capitalized.
It'd be cool if you had a Macintosh 128k page but they're expensive little buggers. If you do get one, I can offer some assistance with disassembly. They're easy to damage and have high voltage inside. Contact me through my website http://silenceisdefeat.org/~lgtngstk/Sites/email.html
Does anyone know of any vendors who sell the classic XT/AT cases modified for ATX Motherboards. I always liked the classic look of the XT/AT Cases. If so let me know or post the URL.
Thanks, Joe
Still have one 5160 - with those Tandon fullsize 5.25 drives - and boxes filled with floppycontrollers, vga(isa) and ibm memory exp card, and lots lots more..
hellow i am from israel and i want to buy old computer ibm pc with dos.......i wanted to know if you have a store selling in europe or usa to buy this computers............
Hello! very nice web site. I have a pc-dos ver 1.1 it looks just like ver 1.0. does anybody have pc-dos 1.0? where I can download it?
I have an original IBM 5150 with keyboard and the 5151 monitor. I am located in Connecticut. Ideally, it would be great if someone wants them who could pick them up but can consider shipping if necessary. Haven't decided on a price, wanted to see if worth much first though would make it certainly reasonable if much at all.
I have up in my attic a hardly used original IBM PCjr that I bought for my son when he was about 13 years old. He's now 39 years old, so that would make it about 25-26 years old. I don't know a lot about computers (Rams, etc.), but I know that I have the original documentation somewhere. Is it worth my while to find the documetation? How much would this computer be worth today? Thanks. Mrs. D.
I am looking for a Monitor Black & White for my IBMXT that I purchased in 1986
i would like to received some mails about new configuration of computers which facility is company given to coustmers
Hey Erik,
Any chance of putting the DOS 1.0 dsk image up on
your site or emailing it to me? I'm sure IBM'd be
OK with the copyright side of it given that (a)
They sold their PC division to China last year (b)
It has no commercial value or application (c) They
would have dropped support for it an eon ago.
You can get all the tools to do the imaging (plus
many many old IBM booter images at:)
http://retrograde.trustno1.org
Thanks mate,
Greg.
That's interesting to see CP/M-86 in an IBM
slipcase. I always thought DR marketed it
themselves. Boy DR were dumb... if they had priced
it lower than DOS then end-of-story but apparently
it was worth like $500 compared to about $50 for
DOS and DOS was so much more underpowered (I have
used CP/M-86 on my 5150 and it's a real step up
from DOS 1.x-2.x).
Anyone got a 5161 or 5152 they want to sell cheap?
Several of us are desparate for replacement cables for the 5161 IBM Expansion Unit. Can anyone help with technical information, pinouts, schematics for the extender/receiver cards????
[quote](Submitted August 12, 2006 14:52:18 by Ron
Mitchell)
Here's a tid bit on the 25th Anniversy of the IBM
PC... IBM used the Intel 8080 micro processor
instead of the Intel 8086 micro processor because
of the IBM System 32. IBM used the Intel 8086 in
the System 32 and was afraid that if the Intel
8086 was used in the IBM PC that some interprising
soul would figure out how to get the System 32 OS
to run on the PC and thus cause a loss of sales
for the System 32...in the end, some one figured
out how without IBM's help...:)[/quote]
This is total BS. I was a Customer Engineer for
IBM and trained on the System 32. It was
introduced before the 8086 was available. It was
an 8 bit processor machine derived from System 3's
and the 8086 would blow it away.
psikeyhackr
Cool site!
Two years ago while moving I thought I wouldn't
ever be interested in continuing my computer
collection NOR did I think that any of my STUFF
would be worth anything to anybody. So I THREW
AWAY two complete IBM 5150 PCs with monitors and
double floppies, plus other stuff.... AACk!
Re: The date doesn't add up on the invoice. It
is for 1/2/81. The IBM PC didn't come out until
8/12/81.
You're right. The date only adds up once you
realize that a lot of folks have trouble
remembering the change in year right after the
new year. On January 2nd many folks are still a
bit hung-over. The machine was actually picked
up on 1/2/82 even though it was ordered months
earlier.
The date doesn't add up on the invoice. It is for 1/2/81. The IBM PC didn't come out until 8/12/81.
@Ron Mitchell - It was in an 8088, not an 8080.
They used an 8088 because 8-bit components were
cheaper and the 8088 had an 8-bit bus compared to
the 16-bit bus of the 8086.
I don't know where you got your info.
Here's a tid bit on the 25th Anniversy of the IBM PC... IBM used the Intel 8080 micro processor instead of the Intel 8086 micro processor because of the IBM System 32. IBM used the Intel 8086 in the System 32 and was afraid that if the Intel 8086 was used in the IBM PC that some interprising soul would figure out how to get the System 32 OS to run on the PC and thus cause a loss of sales for the System 32...in the end, some one figured out how without IBM's help...:)
I do own an IBM 5150, 5151(screen) and keyboard.
Also an IBM 5161 expansion unit with 2, 10MB
harddrives.
What is failing is the cable connection the 2
IBM creations.
5161 has a 60 pin female connection in the rear,
the 5150 has a 37 female connection.
can someone help me to specifications about how
to connect the two?
Sweet!!! Wondering where I could get a digital copy of the original IBM PC technical reference manual.
I am looking for IBM 5150 and 5160/XT systems and parts in the UK. If you have anything, please do let me know!
I've still got my original (purchased 1982) IBM PC with the monochrome green monitor and two slots for 5 floppies. I learned to program in Basic and had a lot of fun with it. I've gotta believe that this baby will be worth quite a bit as the years go. What do you think?
I'm thinking of purchasing one of these bad boys. The only problem is I can't find one with the original monitor and keyboard. Is anyone selling theirs with these items? Also, it needs to be in good condition since I'll be keeping it for my collection.
please,I am having a problem with my ibm computer.the problem is that,when i switch on the machine it appears on the screen,power on selftest please what should I do and what does it mean?hope to hear from you soon.
I recently found what I think is a IBM clone and has a 8088 CPU in it. This is a GoldStar XT-4 and I've been unable to find any information on it at all. I have a large variety of software and extra's to go along with it. Any information would be appreciated. This is not a MSX GoldStar as far as I know and was made in Korea. Has a CGA Monocrome monitor. Base operating system is DOS with the main desktop Eight In One that boots as soon as the system is turned on. Has one 5 1/4 floppy drive. Has a internal hard drive, not sure about the size of the drive. Several programs including GW-Basic and a GoldStar monitor manual, I am missing the system manual. Also has a MS- Basic manual and a MS-DOS referance manual to go along with it. Apparently this PC was purchased on QVC and the PC was manufactured on date October 1989 according to the model information on the back. Also the serial numbers are 910003624. FCC #: BEJ9QKXT4. Made in Korea.
please can you detail to me the hard drive capacity,type and make of printer/scanner/copier
Sorry can you give an Extra peripheral devices of this type of computer
I probobly have the manuals and dont know it ! I am curruntly trying to organize everything. Im going to take pics of most of the collection.I have 200 or more books etc...on old programs that I havent even got into yet...In the meantime...there are some rather poor pics at http://community.webshots.com/user/p4guy, I dont know how the cat (or my P4 got in there!!!! I will improve on the Pics,shortly.
The IBM PC and PC/XT would have come with a
BASIC manual and a Guide to Operations, per the
picture above. Almost all of them would have
also had a DOS manual, although that was sold
separately.
Your Eagle PC is a good machine to have. It was
the first IBM PC clone to hit the market!
Great Site.....I have a 5150 with a 5153 color monitor and a 5160 with a 5151 mono monitor,there both in running order.I am looking for original manuals and programs for these fine machines(?).I have quite a few other old computers as well...including a compaq portable(1982)a Eagle PC (19??)various other IBMs model 30(286),model 70(386) and a wierd PS2 model 25.these all run along with numerous 286,386 and 486 clones.I have about 30 other computers as well...some run some dont...gotta Radio Shack model 3 with some manuals.Nothing is for sale but would like to trade what I have for what you have If you have something I want,if I have anything anyone wants.....I have LOTS of spare parts(just ask my wife). I am currently taking pics of some it if anyone wants to look at anything.Even a list of what manuals came with the old IBMs would be usefull.Thanx
I've got a First Edition IBM PC Technical
Reference Manual I'm thinking of selling since the
old PC is long gone and the manual is just taking
up space on the shelf.
It's dated 1981 and the manual number is 6025005.
It's in good condition with some wear around the
page holes and some spots of dirt and slight
scuffing on the outside cover. I've had it since
1983, but since I don't know much about hardware
or Assembler, it's not been used.
If anyone wants it, make me an offer.
Ahem...
I have an
Ibm pc xt with 640k an 85mb hd
5inch 1.44 and 3.5inch 1.44 floppies
mine has a rca style video-out and db-9 cga
connector
as well as a 1500 baud hayes modem
and a boat load of extras like the card for the
mini-floppy retrofit with the monster connector
i like to play centipede and montzumas revenge
i also use this thing to dabble in assembly
programming...
my dad give it to me
his cat thought an xt keyboard was a good
place to take a leak...
thus i constructed a new one using a ps/2 at / xt
switchable keyboard i found on the side of the
road... i rewired it with the old cord and it
Works like a charm...
now what to do with the f11,f12,menu, and windows
keys?...
i just pryed them off and filled in the holes
my keyboard im using right now is an Ibm kb-2953
It looks like a model m keyboard but without the
ridges on the side...
i will shut up now and let you keep reading...
I own one of these exact machines and its expansion unit, Please try to be sympatyhetic to me, mine were exposed to storm surge water from hurricai Katrina and I need replavcament or up grade partd for ythe cases. please help,SAK)
I have a complete 5150 for parts and lots of extra cards, graphics card, motherboard, memory expansion board, extra floppies and more. Just got it all from my father who cleaned his closet. The 5150 doesnt boot, the power supply turns on but that's it. I have to take a look and see what is wrong. Probably something simple. But all the extra parts are in mint condition. Willing to sell all or parts for cheap. E-mail me if you want more details and pics.
Hi, I have a TriGem 88E XT computer. The hard drive 20meg has decided to pack up, so I dont know if the card has gone west as well? I wondered if there as anywhere I could try to get a replacement drive and or card...I would prefer if this is possible to get a card that would allow me to use IDE drives as I have a 50 meg drive to hand. I've looked at loads of web sites but so far havent found any mention of the TriGem XT computer. Tried search engines etc to no avail. I should mention that I am in the Cornwall,England, UK to be precise. Thanks...
I recently discovered two IBM XT computers with monitors while clearing out storage with a group I volunteer. Seem to be in good condition but not sure if they work yet. Will check next week. Single 5.25 drive. Dos 2.01 manual and Operating Manual in fair condition. Looking to sell for charity.
I'm looking for an IBM PC, anyone got one for me
for a reasonable price?
Please contact me!
Thanks,
Ruben
I am looking for a IBM 5151 monitor for the IBM 5150 machine. Do you know where I can purchase one at a reasonable price?
Can anyone tell me where I could get a copy of the BIOS listing that came in the original IBM PC technical manual (1981 or 1982)? I lost the BIOS listing 20 years ago, and it has irritated me ever since. I would either like to buy the technical manual or a copy of the BIOS listing or know where to find it on the web. Thanks.
I have one of this lying around. I remember the
first day I saw this machine. It cost something
like 10,000 Hong Kong Dollars when my old man
picked it up. Brings back tons of memories, it is
still sitting there in the spare room.
Hi All: This is my first post on here. I own an IBM 3270 Personal Computer, It was rusted very badly so I gutted it and painted it. I am now looking for an AT board for it that will support a P4 processor, anyone have any ideas? Thanks....Mike S.
I used to have one of those when I lived in my apartment in New York on the 5th floor and it was by a window and my husband scared me and the window was open and I hit the screen and it fell out the window down 5 stories and it was gone. That old thing had good memories and then they ended up getting swept away with the dump truck.lol~
this website is da bomb i come here all the time.
I agree - this box was already great fun - anf it
made me wonder what would be 'next'..:) I can also
say that I kind of grew up with it.. and it still
runs at least MS-Flight Simulator.. which also has
no GUI..:]
And if you want to see some picture of it -) I
finally uploaded some to my website (a
href=http://www.bilderbook.org/monitor_tv/personal_computer/pictures/
target=_blank)http://www.bilderbook.org/monitor_tv/personal_computer/pictures/(/a)
..hope that link works..? Otherwise I'm sorry..X]
..greetings, t..
Hello. I don't think you're the right person to ask this, but since you have this PC...I was wondering where I could find the monitor for the 5150? I'am desperately looking for it, but to (of course) no avail....hope you could be of some help...Thank you.
Hi all, Erik this ones for you, since you have all the instruction books and original disk is there any chance that i could say, buy a copy from you? They don't need to be originals its just hell trying to find software of this age anywere, i am after pre 2.0 DOS and the diagnostic disk for an ibm 5150, and help is much appreciated, Thankyou, David
Anyone care to guess what a working IBM 5161 Expansion Chassis might be worth? I have a complete unit with a 10M hard drive installed, sender and reciever cards, that ridiculously thick cable, and the manual taking up space in my basement I'm thinking of selling...
Sorry Interlace, but I have to kick you into touch with your above post (second from top)... the standard machine came with 64Kb on the mother board as standard, to extend the memory, you needed to either upgrade the memory chips or use a ram extension board (Quadram for example) As far as I remember, the standard shipped out mother board had 16 4KB memory modules on board, but absolutely did not have 640KB of memory modules as standard... no, you paid extra for those, along with your hard drive and your monitor.
Oh! great computer. My 5150 is still working well EXCEPT it's hard drive. I've got to reinstall PC-DOS again, but I haven't found 5.25 disks. Anyway, someone selling them??? ;)
My dad had an 8088 XT (ibm) when i was little, with a monochrome adapter and a monochrome monitor that displayed orange (ahh.. nostalgia) :) I remembered using HGCIBM to emulate CGA for games (which was extremely cool hehe), i also believe that was the tool that could give a boost to ega adapters (mentioned a few posts above). Only one correction to what's mentioned above.... it had 640kb memory (so i don't think 512kb was the max back then). Oh well, those were the good old days.
The 4-color limitation was only a limitation of the CGA memory. With 16K memory, it could do 2-bit color at 320x200 (320*200*2/8 == 16000) or 1-bit color at 640x200 (640*200*1/8 == 16000). These are the modes directly supporeted by the PC BIOS; with a little bit of manipulation of the CGA registers, though, one could achieve 4-bit color at lower resolutions. I don't remember the details, but I remember playing with some old code from Compute or BYTE magazine that did this; I was truly amazed.
i really like this page and i was just wondering
if you could send me the recent upgrades to the
IBM computers since 1975 when I think that was
when it was first started.
Thank Michelle
Can you mount a 1.44mb or 1.2 meg drive in there and just configure them as 360 and 720 my 5 1/4's are no good anymore.
I would like to ask, What is the Ethical Sides of the brining up of this Great PC at that time ??
Graphical User Interface. -like windows XP or just plain old windows itself. DOS is a non-gui
Bobby Arsfenstienger wrote:
But whats a GUI
GUI is a Graphical User Interface. That means
interacting with a computer by doing something
other than typing command line text strings.
Windows and Apple and OS/2 and many other
operating systems are GUI. If you have to type
things like C:/qbasic or edit in order to run
programs, you're probably not running a GUI. If
you are using a mouse, pulling icons around,
etc, then you're using a GUI.
Here's a place that explains GUI in more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUI
I was surprised that a commenter in Dec of 2004
was eschewing Ebay because it would require a GUI.
I presumed the comment was tongue-in-cheek, though
I suppose it was not.
We Have Same Hobby
Jeff,
If you don't want to do eBay or the Vintage
Computer Marketplace you can just accept emails
from here and, hopefully, someone will want them.
You can also post something to one of the
appropriate newsgroups. . .
Erik
I've got two 5150's in my garage...haven't had it in me to toss them (thinking they may be worth something someday...) Any idea how best to unload them (I'm not much for ebay...need a GUI for that)
There were differences between the early PC and the later XT. The PC had five slots, spaced further apart than usual, had two DIN connectors on the back (one for keyboard and one for cassette), and had a feeble 67 watt power supply. The later XT deleted the cassette port (though the BIOS continued support for it), at least a 120 watt power supply (IBMs I have seen used 120, 150 or 180 watt PSUs), an 8 slot motherboard. The PC could only support 64kB memory; the XT supported 256kB (512kB with special piggy-back memory). The PC had two sets of DIP switches and a relay for the cassette, the XT had one bank of DIP switches. The earliest PC's had a built in cassette with no floppy, like the Adam had...
There were differences between the early PC and the later XT. The PC had five slots, spaced further apart than usual, had two DIN connectors on the back (one for keyboard and one for cassette), and had a feeble 67 watt power supply. The later XT deleted the cassette port (though the BIOS continued support for it), at least a 120 watt power supply (IBMs I have seen used 120, 150 or 180 watt PSUs), an 8 slot motherboard. The PC could only support 64kB memory; the XT supported 256kB (512kB with special piggy-back memory). The PC had two sets of DIP switches and a relay for the cassette, the XT had one bank of DIP switches. The earliest PC's had a built in cassette with no floppy, like the Adam had...
A GUI, Bobby, is a Graphic User Interface. I pulled an IBM PC out of a dumpster at New York City's World Trade Center back in the late 1980s/early 1990s and still have it. I actually mail ordered some additional RAM a while back and took it up to the full 640K. I used it as recently as 1997 but have not booted it in years.
the CGA display supported only 4 colors @ 320x200
(i used to have an Amstrad 1512 with a CGA
display)
I remember that...thing...being in my house way back, my father worked for them. It was cool just to see numbers on the screen!!! Didn't work like a calculator though...you had to put in formulas or code or whatever it was. It was fun as a kid to go...lkjfdh lasdjhf alskh sdflkha fdkjhlksdf lakdsjfh kj...ahhh, memories...bring on Oregon Trail 2005!!!lol
This is a cool site. Good job!! But whats a GUI
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