Computer security....

[Chuck(G)]

Thought some of the forum members would be interested in this way to "wipe" a hard drive (http://www.datadev.com/hard-drive-shredder.html)

:)

Just don't try it with any 5.25" FH hard drives...

[frozenfire75i]

Just a cool 34K delivered on a contact....

[TandyMan100]

HARD DRIVE MURDER!!! WAH ! :mad:

[cosam]

Yep, I'd like to see the forensic data recovery guys read anything off what that beast spits out. Would be worth taking a bag of the stuff along just to see the look on their faces ;-)

Too bad about the two inch limit, although most of my FH drives have done a pretty good job of rendering themselves unreadable - and for free, too!

[Ksarul]

You just have to take the platters out of the FH drives and feed them in individually. . .

I like this toy! I used to service industrial-scale paper shredders. They would take a 2-inch thick book and shred it into dust in seconds--and they were loud! They recommended that paper clips be removed before shredding, but any smaller metal bits were fair game. . .and the only negative result of a paper-clip shred was a couple of minor divots in the edge of a few of the shredder blades.

[Vlad]

Or you can use the method the British SAS use which is Thermite :)

[NeXT]

HARD DRIVE MURDER!!! WAH ! :mad:

QFT.
I hate it when you see an old but nice drive end up being shredded.
Part of me died when I watched ten ST-225's end up this way.

[Chuck(G)]

Or you can use the method the British SAS use which is Thermite :)

A wood hog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYkeSSKswcI) would probably make short work of an ST225.

Failing that a good rock crusher will do the job (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7uTk_0zy0A).

Kind of makes that $34K gizmo look like a toy... :)

[Druid6900]

I always found that going into an IT department, properly equipped with plenty of C4, DetCord and a remote detonator not only shredded the drives to everyone's satisfaction, but, strangely, generated orders for new machines as well.

[Terry Yager]

I find the ol'-fashion way more satisfying...just take a fire axe to it. Course, nailing it to a tree and shooting it up with a .30-30 is also amusing, and just as effective.

--T

[arjoll]

Interesting video.

Its a good thing they securely shredded the keyboard and optical drive, would be a bugger if someone managed to get data off them.... :rolleyes:

[dpatten]

I find the ol'-fashion way more satisfying...just take a fire axe to it. Course, nailing it to a tree and shooting it up with a .30-30 is also amusing, and just as effective.

--T

I prefer my .30-06...:crazy:

[Mad-Mike]

I don't need that, I've copius amounts of balled up anger, hammers, axes, and arms. If I need to secure data. And with the things going on with my friend's machines these past few months, I would not mind taking a Desert Eagle to a few Pentium 4's and Core 2 Duo's.

[TandyMan100]

I find the ol'-fashion way more satisfying...just take a fire axe to it. Course, nailing it to a tree and shooting it up with a .30-30 is also amusing, and just as effective.

--T
I'd like it better with the .50 chaingun off of the new Rambo movie...



tattatattattattatatatatatatatatatatatat... BOOM!

[linuxlove]

and then there's always therimite for making HDD goo...

[Vlad]

There's always some big guns like Trinitrotoluene better known as TNT. Thermite isn't hard to buy as long as you're 21 or older and sign for it.

[barythrin]

I was just thinking about this thread on my walk down the hall this morning and it's stupid the way corporations destroy stuff. We have shredding too now for our old perfectly good hard drives due to BS laws regarding safety of the information that could have partially touched the drives. Yes I understand that's good, but we wipe the drives several times over (darik's boot and nuke) and they're part of a raid-5 cluster so not even all information would be stored on one drive, etc etc.

So instead of giving the employees stuff (though we occasionally have prior to these new audit/compliance requirements) we're going to "throw it away" via some company that WE PAY to come take our stuff that they can resell and chip a bunch of good drives someone else could use in their servers. Atleast I could take some and they'd know it'd get used well. I never understood paying people to throw stuff away. Glad I'm not in business lol. Course in my rule we'd end up like lots of companies with some awesome $4M 20 year old server in the basement that we'd eventually need to pay someone to get outta there and cost us more.

[Vlad]

I agree with that, even business that have to be compliant with DoD 5220.22-M could just stick to the standard and sanitize the drive for internal redeployment. As far as I know if you wipe the drive to DoD/NSA standards not even the famous OnTrack can get it back, its gone forever so the shredding thing strikes me as excessive unless you had some really REALLY bad stuff on there and even then its kind of a special case.

I think its more of a case of lazyness. Its easier to just physcially destory and buy new than it is to wipe and redeploy, from the higer ups point of view that is. That then gives the big bosses a false sense of security because the drives are literally destroyed along with the data.

[Chuck(G)]

Thermite isn't hard to buy as long as you're 21 or older and sign for it.

Buy? It's easy enough to make--just any old iron oxide (rust is fine) and powdered aluminum. Ignite with a magnesium ribbon.

[Vlad]

Buy? It's easy enough to make--just any old iron oxide (rust is fine) and powdered aluminum. Ignite with a magnesium ribbon.

The stuff you buy is a mix geared for high yield and temps, more so than doing it yourself plus the same place sells ignition powder to make it easier :mrgreen:

[Chuck(G)]

The stuff you buy is a mix geared for high yield and temps, more so than doing it yourself plus the same place sells ignition powder to make it easier :mrgreen:

Any reaction that produces molten iron is more than sufficient for doing in a hard drive, I'd think...

[Vlad]

Touche

[ahm]

I've found that a few well-placed whacks with a ball peen hammer is enough to do the job.
When you hear the platters shatter, you're done.
The large concave dents leave no question about the drive's condition.
And there's no messy slag to clean up.

Andy

[tezza]

The hammer solution is one I've empoyed myself. Quick, effective and no expensive machinery required. :)

Tez

[linuxlove]

i love hearing the sound of HDD platters shatter, even more so in one of those old deathstar HDD's...
I also like thriowing broken HDD's up in the air and then watch them crash into the pavement.
Or you can find something useful to do with a dead HDD and turn it into a metal grinder!

[Terry Yager]

SHHHHHH!!! Keep it down guys, or Mike's gonna have his foot up my ass for gettin' y'all sidetracked on this homebrew explosives thing...:twisted:

--T

[Terry Yager]

I prefer my .30-06...:crazy:

Me too, but since this is an instructional thread, I used an example that more people are likely to have at hand, since the .30-30 is the more popular round...

--T

[CP/M User]

Terry Yager wrote:

I find the ol'-fashion way more satisfying...just take a fire axe to it. Course, nailing it to a tree and shooting it up with a .30-30 is also amusing, and just as effective.

Guess it beats just throwing it up in the air and see how many bullet holes you can get in it before it hits the ground?

[Terry Yager]

Terry Yager wrote:

I find the ol'-fashion way more satisfying...just take a fire axe to it. Course, nailing it to a tree and shooting it up with a .30-30 is also amusing, and just as effective.

Guess it beats just throwing it up in the air and see how many bullet holes you can get in it before it hits the ground?

I've tried that too, but all I ever get is one hole...all the rest of the bullets go through the first one!

/Boast

--T

[CP/M User]

Terry Yager wrote:

I've tried that too, but all I ever get is one hole...all the rest of the bullets go through the first one!

Well that's no good - unless you show all your friends there how many bullets you can get through that hole!