I Hate Western Movies!

[Terry Yager]

Why is it that they seem to work so hard at defeating my ability to suspend disbelief?

--T

[tgunner]

Why is it that they seem to work so hard at defeating my ability to suspend disbelief?

--T

To keep you focused, and wanting more popcorn....

[Terry Yager]

Heh! I read somewhere recently that ticket sales are a break-even deal for movie houses. The only profit they make is at the concession stands. (So now we know why it costs eight buck$ to see a movie, and twenty more for popcorn & Cokes).

--T

[Terry Yager]

OK, pop quiz:

How many bullets does a six-shooter hold?

--T

[Terry Yager]

Of course, being focused watching for flagrant errors is not the same as edge-of-your-seat interest...

--T

[atari2600a]

Wait, is this a disscusion about Brokeback Mountain?

[Mad-Mike]

If you think brokeback mountain is a western, you got NO clue what a western is.........

I think here he's talking about stuff like Clint Eastwood movies, the good bad and the ugly. Sorta like Lethal Weapon or Mad Max with horses and old tymey' weapons.

[CP/M User]

Oh well now, don't let me change your opinion - I only grew up
on Western movies, their're all cool IMO, particularly love
the Spaghetti Westerns - the Sergio Leone Fist Full of Dollar
movies, brillant, excellent - can't wait to see ol' Clint do
that gun thingy again! :-D

What I love about those Spaghetti Westerns is the way their
filmed - 3 great movies in all - not like other films where
you get one goodie & some flops to follow (Smokey & The Bandit
for instance - however I quite liked the sequal - consult a
critic about that though).

Some John Wayne western movies I like (I've moved with his
late Cop films like McQ and Branagan though) - I think Clint
is my man! :-D

Gotta get some James Stewart westerns though - only seen a
little bit of The Man who Shot Liberty Valance & How the West
was won was just a bit of a bit role for poor ol' James. To me
James is an true all-round actor, someone who could play
anything - which is why James Stewart is my all-time favourite
actor.

But anyway. Why do you hate Westerns?

To me their spelendid! :-D
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[CP/M User]

No Brokeback Mountain ain't no Western - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) "John
Wayne" to find out what a Western is! :-D

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[alexkerhead]

OK, pop quiz:

How many bullets does a six-shooter hold?

--T
8? :rolleyes:

[Terry Yager]

Actually, I love Westerns, I just hate it when they insult my intelligence. I've done a bit of wranglin' and some bits in some movies just bug me, but when the whole plotline is flawed, it drives me nuts. I'm talking 'bout the movie about the two guys who are pushing a 500-head herd of horses from Oregon to Wyoming. Excuse me? How many men, pushing how many hoss across the northern Rockies?

--T

[carlsson]

MAD once made a parody of The Shootist (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075213/) from 1976:

"Can you imagine a western movie where John Wayne's character dies? Yes, but can you imagine a movie where both the character, script and everything else dies?"

I haven't seen the movie, but in MAD's version, John Bernard Books was first diagnosed with cancer, then he tried to kill himself in a gunfight and in the end, the doctor came back telling him the tests were negative; he only suffered from a bad case of gastric catarrh or something like that.

[carlsson]

two guys who are pushing a 500-head herd of horses from Oregon to Wyoming.
Jesus fed 5000 people on two bread and five fishes. Hercules performed the ten (or was it twelve?) great achievments. Maybe one of the guys in the movie was a distant relative of either of these two.

[bbcmicro]

I have been brainwashed on John Wayne from my early years, Rooster Cogburn in True Grit, The Quiet Man, given the choice I wouldn't have watched them, but I wasn't.

Westerns have never really appealed to me. Some of them are OK, some of them are awful, but I haven't seen one yet that I really like.

[CP/M User]

Terry Yager wrote:

> Actually, I love Westerns, I just hate it when they
> insult my intelligence. I've done a bit of wranglin'
> and some bits in some movies just bug me, but when
> the whole plotline is flawed, it drives me nuts. I'm
> talking 'bout the movie about the two guys who are
> pushing a 500-head herd of horses from Oregon to
> Wyoming. Excuse me? How many men, pushing how many
> hoss across the northern Rockies?

Well obviously I'm a sucker for those movies, I don't care
what happens in them as long as I get pleasure from them. Like
I said - I generally like Westerns, though the Spaghetti
Western Sergio Leone kind I have an appitite for - everytime I
watch them - I see something new or simply remark how
brillantly the scenes were shot - or even the musical scores
are fantastic. To me they deliver a no nonsense policy -
perhaps it's not all true, or would have happened that way -
but their just great to watch - done in the 60s so it's all
real sets & 100% acting, action, incrediable.

Another movie which I grew up watching was Jeremiah Johnson
with Robert Redford, okay I think this is semi-Western kind of
thing, though still another great film - which got me into
these other westerns, however I do recall watching those Clint
Eastwood from a pretty young age as well (particularly Fistful
of Dollars & For a few Dollars More). Movies with the Cowboys
& Indian's are okay, though I much prefer the Spaghetti
westerns! :-D Once you've seen Clint do a western though, I've
pretty much got the Drift with his later Westerns - Unforgiven
always sends a shiver down my spine.

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[Terry Yager]

Jesus fed 5000 people on two bread and five fishes. Hercules performed the ten (or was it twelve?) great achievments. Maybe one of the guys in the movie was a distant relative of either of these two.

I dunno, from the way they went about indiscriminatly killing the 'bad guyz', they weren't very closely related to Jebus, but mebbe Hercules.

Other 'problems' I have with this movie:

Somehow, somewhere along the trail, these two wranglerz managed to pick up five Chinese girlz/women, a runaway whore, and an old Chinese laundryman, which they hadda babysit, and, although none of them had ever sat a hoss before, all of them managed to make it across the Great Divide, at a dead run, all the while being shaddowed by three 'bad guyz', who had been hired to bring the women back to thier 'owner', the Madam of the brothel.

Then, after making it to thier final destination, the younger of the two wranglerz volunteerz to ride back along the trail to round up a few strayz. The next scene he appearz in shows him driving about 5 - 6 'strayz' back, at a dead run. If you look real closely, the brown mare at the far left of the camera shot, is obviously about 10.5 months pregnant with a 40-pound foal. (If you see the movie, compare her size to the other hossez in the scene). No horse-wrangler in his right mind would push her that hard, in her condition. (The stable who rented her to the movie-makerz would be very pizzed to see that scene).

Oh yeah, and as to the size of the herd, every long camera shot throughout the movie, only shows about 150 head, tops. Where are the other 350 hoss?

BTW, if I hadda drive 500 head of hoss across 800 miles of *level ground*, in *good weather*, with plenty of grass & water, I'd still want at least 6 or 8 good wranglerz. No way it can be done with just two guyz. That dawg just don't hunt!

--T

[CP/M User]

Sounds like that could be -any- film! :-D

I mean there's Western movies & then there's movies which are
set durning the western times, they may not necessarily be
westerns though - though it might be about someone in
particular.

The Good, Bad & Ugly is a funny film in that regard - while
it's a Western (no doubt) - our ol' mate gets involved in the
Civil War - somehow, which is interesting! :-)

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[Terry Yager]

G,B,& U is my favorite of the 'Man With No Name' trilogy. (Yes, I'm a big Eastwood fan too). My favorite is 'The Unforgiven', which you mentioned earlier. I also like the 'Dirty Harry' seriez.
Clint Eastwood could kick Chuck Norris' ass any day!

--T

[Chris2005]

the Man who shot Liberty Valence is a classic. Seems ol' Duke is best when he's blowing his temper. I have a fondness for that movie.
Off-topic, I just bought my first DVD the other day, Timeline. I thought it was totally mediocre or worse, and I love "period" films. But the movies they're putting out these days are so lousy it's unbelievable. Poor scripts, poor acting. I could do better ;)

[Terry Yager]

'Rooster Cogburn' iz my all-time-favorite JW character (No, I don't mean Jehova's Witness, either).

--T

[CP/M User]

Oh course Clint would whip Chuck Norris anytime with that big
Magnum - unless he fired 6 shots instead of 5.

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