TPDD2 FLOPPY.CO Ver 2.0

[chuckcmagee]

I need a copy of FLOPPY.CO ver 2.0.0 for the TPDD2 drive. I found ver 1.0.0 on the internet but can't seem to find the 2nd version.

I want to make some backup copies of my TS-DOS disk and looks like FLOPPY.CO is the only one that will copy the stupid boot program on the front of the disk.

email chuckcmagee <at> msn DOT com

[RichCini]

I need a copy of FLOPPY.CO ver 2.0.0 for the TPDD2 drive. I found ver 1.0.0 on the internet but can't seem to find the 2nd version.

I want to make some backup copies of my TS-DOS disk and looks like FLOPPY.CO is the only one that will copy the stupid boot program on the front of the disk.

email chuckcmagee <at> msn DOT com

I would be interested in this, too. Post a PM or email rcini <at> msn dot com

Thanks.

[kb2syd]

Did you guys check with m100@list.30below.com or with Rick at club100.org?

[chuckcmagee]

The "dl-arc.exe" thing on 100club has the 1.0.0 version only. I got exhausted trying to find the right version. I suppose I could go the long way around and buy some boot disks from club100. Overkill really.

[kb2syd]

Or ask the guys on the mailing list. Someone there would send you a copy probably just for postage if not for free.

[chuckcmagee]

Well, I tried the mailing list. If I want a backup copy of my TS-DOS diskette, guess I'll have to send Rick some money. Or just hope my one diskette doesn't get tired.

[kb2syd]

If you have a diskette with Version 2.0 on it, can you copy it using something like ImageDisk or a catweasel?

[chuckcmagee]

No, my problem is the drive came with the Traveling Software TS-DOS diskette only, no Tandy software came with it. The diskette works perfect but the boot file name starts with a blank, so I can't just load and save to another disk (illegal file name error).

It's ok, going to give up here. I have TS-DOS coming on ROM anyway.

[chuckcmagee]

Whew, there. I ordered a few Utility disks from Rick. Guess I should have taken that route to start with.

[kb2syd]

No, my problem is the drive came with the Traveling Software TS-DOS diskette only, no Tandy software came with it. The diskette works perfect but the boot file name starts with a blank, so I can't just load and save to another disk (illegal file name error).


I was suggesting copying the entire diskette using an external utility. I routinely make copies of many different diskette types, even copy protected ones. If ImageDisk doesn't do it, then I have a catweasel that works on the actual signal from the diskette.

[RichCini]

I was suggesting copying the entire diskette using an external utility. I routinely make copies of many different diskette types, even copy protected ones. If ImageDisk doesn't do it, then I have a catweasel that works on the actual signal from the diskette.

If I could make a suggestion...try giving Teledisk or ImageDisk a try. These are two format-independent disk imaging tools that I use for various old computer disk imaging. Go to http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/img/index.htm and download Teledisk 2.16 and ImageDisk. Both of these utilities work best from a real DOS prompt...not from within Windows...because they talk directly to the disk controller.

Make an image and then re-burn a copy and give it a try. If successful, then we can pass the copy around for archival purposes.

[Terry Yager]

There's also a DOS-based program called PDD2.EXE, or sum'n like that. Look for it on club100. It (supposedly) allows you to jack in the pdd2 to a PC serial port and access it as if a native DOS drive (I've never tried it).

--T

[chuckcmagee]

I tried teledisk - does NOT like 1280 byte sectors, end of that story.

The problem is the boot file is name " Boot2", NOTE the leading space on the file name. Anyway, I sent Rick 10 smackers for both Utility disks. I know BACKUP.BA will work to make a copy of the disk. I hope what I read about having to switch the disks 160 times is wrong.

[chuckcmagee]

Kelly: yes, I know what you were suggesting. You are looking at Mr. CopyIIPC (chuckle). Anyway, I stored all my old "tower" type PCs so too much trouble to dig those babies out again to get dual floppy drives again.

[Terry Yager]

Y'know, you can define your own 'special' disk format for TeleDisk. I've muddled thru it once myself, so if ya need help, holla at me (mebbe I'll remember how I did it).

--T

[kb2syd]

Imagedisk handles large sectors too, and the catweasel just eats up the flux stream. It doesn't care about bits, bytes, or even nibbles. I like messing around with weird floppies and trying to access the data on them. I'm working on a utility to extract data from diskimages directly.

I may send $5 for a disk myself (even though I don't have a tppd) and see if I can read it with any of the utilities I have.

[Terry Yager]

OOPS! I meant 22Disk, not TD...

--T

[chuckcmagee]

Duh!!! Turns out there is no such thing as a FLOPPY.CO ver 2. I finally figured out that Tandy TOTALLY changed the way file manager worked between TPDD1 and TPDD2. FLOPPY.CO turned into just plain FLOPPY but the new program was just a little stub "loader" at that point. Anyway, Rick Hanson sent me some "Utility disks" for both drives and both work great. $5 for each one was reasonable, as hard as these things are to come by. I immediately made numerous copies of those 2 disks plus my TS-DOS disk for the M100.

[RichCini]

You know, this brings up an interesting question in my mind. I saw a project out there for emulating a TPDD2 using a Palm Pilot. Are there any other drive emulation projects for the TPDD/2 out there?

It should be pretty easy to cobble something together with a PIC microcontroller and some flash RAM (SD or CF). PICs are not my area of expertise, but you probably could probably even make one (less efficiently though) using a BASIC Stamp and some I2C flash memory.

Just some ideas for someone else to implement :-)

[RichCini]

Whew, there. I ordered a few Utility disks from Rick. Guess I should have taken that route to start with.

Based on this thread I tried to locate my own M100 disks and all I could find was a disk called "TS-RANDOM".

What disks did you order from Rick? I looked on his "orders" page and I didn't see a link for original M100 disks.

Also, sort of related, I'm going to try to make copies of my disks with Teledisk and ImageDisk and see what happens.

[chuckcmagee]

Forget the teledisk thing. I read somewhere that nobody has been successful at reading TPDD disks using native PC hardware.

> >For the Tandy Portable Disk Drive 200K format...
> >Tandy Catalog Number: 26-3814
> >
> >For the Tandy Portable Disk Drive 100K format...
> >Tandy Catalog Number: 26-3808

[chuckcmagee]

I don't know if the TS-DOS folks, Traveling Software, are still in business. If so, you would have to buy a copy.

Edit: Hmm, Club 100 has the TS-DOS ROM available so I guess that Traveling Software has traveled into the sunset.