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mpickering
December 18th, 2006, 08:03 PM
Hi all,

I have the opportunity to acquire a partial (no PSU, no front panel) Floating Point System AP-120B array processor. For those of you who don't know what that is, it is essentially a mini-supercomputer geared to fast floating point calculations. It was hooked up to another computer (mini or mainframe) to augment its processing power. It required the host computer to feed it instructions and data. This model was used in the late 70s and early 80s as a cheap alternative to a Cray. A blistering 6 MIPS and vector processing capabilities thrown in. At one time, five of these units were yoked to a S/370 to form one of the National Centers for Supercomputing systems (of which five were created by the NSF and the only site that didn't use a conventional super at its core).

The cost is reasonable (I can probably get it for $50 with a little patience). I have some technical documentation (thank you Bitsavers!) but I really need to know if this is worth getting. I like it for the sheer novelty factor but I would really like to get it operational. I have only read about the AP-120B and this is the first one I have ever seen. I suspect they are extremely rare nowadays. I think a complete one would be worthy of a musuem display next to a VAX or System/370.

I don't mind getting it for the sheer sake of having it. It is probably the closest I'll get to a Cray. :) And with a PDP-11 I am getting next year, it might be an interesting project if I can find the bits needed to get it up and running.

Anyone have any experience with these things? Worthy project?

Matt

mbbrutman
December 19th, 2006, 05:56 AM
Ow .. nice piece of hardware, but without full technical specs it's going to be pretty much a paperweight.

This sounds like the original math co-processor ... outboard and on an I/O channel.

alang
February 5th, 2008, 07:58 AM
Did u buy it? I worked for FPS in the UK as a support engineer and the AP120b is a big part of my history. If you are needing any bits and pieces I may be able to source what you need.

The biggest problem you'll have is the software. i think the last release was on those horrible little tapes that went in a microvax - tapes plural that is!!
Prior to that it was tape reels and 12Mb removable disks!!

Fount of Knowledge I'm not but I can supply you loads of info if you wish!!

Terry Yager
February 5th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Even if you decide not to buy it for yourself, **PLEASE** don't let it go for scrap! It is something worthy of saving for posterity. If you don't want it, there are places which will gladly adopt it (e.g. Digibarn, etc). Put the word out that it's available, and someone will grab it up.

--T

Al Kossow
February 5th, 2008, 03:49 PM
> The biggest problem you'll have is the software.

Do you have any of the software for the AP120 or FPS100?

Something to watch out for is the interface is built into the unit.
The most commonly found AP120's will be out of GE CAT scanners
and will have a DG Nova interface.

alang
March 6th, 2008, 06:53 AM
> The biggest problem you'll have is the software.

Do you have any of the software for the AP120 or FPS100?

Something to watch out for is the interface is built into the unit.
The most commonly found AP120's will be out of GE CAT scanners
and will have a DG Nova interface.

I don't have any of the software but if somebody SERIOUSLY needs it I'll make some enquiries.

On both models the interface was on a single PCB that could be changed according to the computer. I think there was also a format board that might have needed changing for certain interfaces. There were interfaces for Prime, IBM, PDP, Vax, DG, Norsk Data plus a few more.