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Micom 2000
February 11th, 2008, 07:25 PM
Any one have any mini db50 or centronic SCSI cards for offer. Despite all my gear I find myself lacking SCSI cards. Especially the mini DB50 connector ones. Trade or cash, your choice. I have an Iomega Jazz drive which requires the mini db50. I have cables to connect to it, both centronics and mini DB50s, and could also use SCSI cards for the regular 50 pin Syquest SCSI Zip-drives.

I have a lot of peripheral gear available for trade, including much older stuff and also things like VLB mother boards, PS/2 stuff, video cards etc. As well as a multitude of older original software and books. Apple, Mac, Atari. Commodore and most other Home computer stuff. Even CPUs and older memory. Obviously I would trade at current value, shipping taken into consideration. Contact me by PM.

Lawrence

Geo3
February 12th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Hi,
I think you might confuse a few people calling it a mini 50 pin. I think it is called a High Density 50 pin.
Have one for an Mac PowerBook an Adaptec Slim SCSI 1480.

May have oother SCSI cards, but I have a lot of Apple II stuff to get out. You might be able to find an regular SCSI to HD SCSI cable. Thus you would just need a regular CSCI card. Might be a little easier and cheaper to find, even though it might be slower.

Take Care

Micom 2000
February 13th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Thats what a couple of sites called it , also micro 50-pin. It's a shorter version of the fast 68-pin connector, but with 2 rows of 25 pins. I have an old PowerBook 145 which had a bastard Apple connector which was called an HD 25 (?) which is a rectangular almost square socket. 5 rows with 5 pins each.

Lawrence

Retired
February 13th, 2008, 09:28 AM
Lawrence,
I have an Adaptec 1510A SCSI card. I tested it this morning and win95 identifies it as an ADAPTEC AIC 6x60 ISA single chip SCSI controller. It worked fine with my external DAT. Please let me know if you are interested.
Regards,
Don

Micom 2000
February 13th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Thanks but that card won't work for me. I have an Adaptec 1510a/1515a/1520a card with the centronics 50pin which won't work with the later SCSI interfaces and in some cases newer OS like w98.

Lawrence

Anonymous Coward
February 13th, 2008, 08:49 PM
It didn't work in Windows 98? That's kind of strange. For a while I was using an AHA 1515 in Windows 2000 and didn't notice any problems. If your card does PNP, did you try turning it off and using the manual settings?

You might also want to look into these adapters that turn internal connectors into external connectors. It might be cheaper to just get a new card though.

afleetcommand
February 19th, 2008, 07:24 AM
I have two scsi cards...one pre-history and one out of my e800 net server.

1) Adaptec-1505A Looks like an old SCSI extension to a 50 pin internal plug with an external rs-232 plug...
2) Adaptec-2940W/2940UW (is a PCI card with two internal scsi plug, one thin and one 50 pin as well as a thin external scsi plug.)

I notice those 2940W's are really cheap on ebay..usually 5 bucks so if you want one of those its probably better just to ebay it.

I'd swap any of my pile of old PC cards and S/W for anything that works with my eclectic pile of HP w/s junk...72 pin sims under 32meg and the like, HIL, HP-IB, etc.

Druid6900
February 19th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Hmmm, I have a whole bag of 72-pin SIMMs in 4M, 8M and 16M flavours, some are even FPM.

Micom 2000
February 19th, 2008, 06:43 PM
I have two scsi cards...one pre-history and one out of my e800 net server.

1) Adaptec-1505A Looks like an old SCSI extension to a 50 pin internal plug with an external rs-232 plug...
2) Adaptec-2940W/2940UW (is a PCI card with two internal scsi plug, one thin and one 50 pin as well as a thin external scsi plug.)

I notice those 2940W's are really cheap on ebay..usually 5 bucks so if you want one of those its probably better just to ebay it.

I'd swap any of my pile of old PC cards and S/W for anything that works with my eclectic pile of HP w/s junk...72 pin sims under 32meg and the like, HIL, HP-IB, etc.

I was kind of hoping someone with a swath of SCSI cards would respond. The 2940w (that is the 50 pin thin narrow one I'm presuming not the wider 68 pin one) would serve my needs but as you say they're cheap on E-bay and weighing a trade with shipping costs it would likely balance out except for the packing etc.

Let me just get this RANT out >>>!!
Why do Simm mfgs except for a slim minority not put the capacity on their labels ? I can only speculate that they are trying to boost sales at the expense of most consumers. I have bags of Simms which as some apologists use to say,"just test them in a computer and see what number it comes up with". Almost anything you buy has a quantity label on it. Should you have to measure a quart of milk or weigh a package of some other product ??
I cheer everytime some pirate end runs them and delight in their whining. Hardware or software. They set the standards and also pirate the consumer. LT batteries are a good example as well as proprietory connectors, not to mention the year 2K obsolescing debacle.
RANT over. <<<<

I acquired a SCSI IOMEGA Jaz drive some time back, also have an IO. PP ZIP, as well as a Syquest SCSI ZIP. My experience with SCSI was with a Centronics connector, or regular 25 or 50-pin Macs and Amigas, Ataris, but I also had cables to use. I got both a Centronics and straight-thru mini50pin SCSI cable to use the Jaz drive with, but found I suffered a dirth of SCSI cards. It's impractical to install a SCSI card whenever I want to use the 1 gig Jaz drive to Transfer whatever. I figured with the obsolescing of newer SCSI cards I could acquire enough cheaply for my needs without removing a card from a configuration I use regularly, to do it.

I do have 4 matched Compaq 8m ram EDO simms if you want to make the trade. I also have a lot of parts and cables, but as one on the trailing end of Technology, these are of course older stuff. PM me if you're interested.

Lawrence

Micom 2000
February 23rd, 2008, 09:04 PM
Still looking. I can't believe there aren't some here with either Centonic or mini DB 50 connector SCSI cards clogging up their storage space. I WILL pay for any. Don't force me to go to EPay.

Lawrence

Any one have any mini db50 or centronic SCSI cards for offer. Despite all my gear I find myself lacking SCSI cards. Especially the mini DB50 connector ones. Trade or cash, your choice. I have an Iomega Jazz drive which requires the mini db50. I have cables to connect to it, both centronics and mini DB50s, and could also use SCSI cards for the regular 50 pin Syquest SCSI Zip-drives.

I have a lot of peripheral gear available for trade, including much older stuff and also things like VLB mother boards, PS/2 stuff, video cards etc. As well as a multitude of older original software and books. Apple, Mac, Atari. Commodore and most other Home computer stuff. Even CPUs and older memory. Obviously I would trade at current value, shipping taken into consideration. Contact me by PM.

Lawrence

Unknown_K
February 23rd, 2008, 11:00 PM
I only have a couple and I need them, sorry.

Good SCSI cards for ISA are hard to find (with a bios).

mbbrutman
February 24th, 2008, 07:23 AM
Lawrence,

If you are looking for 8 bit cards to stick in 8 bit ISA bus machines like the PC 5150, 5160, Portable XT or even (gasp) a PCjr your options are the Trantor T128 or T130B, or the Future Domain 8xx series. If you need to be able to boot from the drive attached to the card look for a card with an EPROM socket and an EPROM. The Future Domain series is well supported but some of their external connectors are not 'true SCSI' pinouts, so some research is needed. (You can always use the internal connector.) Also, some versions of the Future Domain BIOS are better than others, but there are a few people now who have 'fixed' their Future Domain cards by moving to an older BIOS.

The 8 bit Seagate ST01/ST02 cards are to be avoided. They have only hard drive support, and only for select hard drives. They have no drives for CD-ROMs or removable storage. If you find one of these, send it to me ... I have a PCjr and a soldering iron that want to talk to it. (It's a long story, but I think I can make these work.)

If you are looking for 16 bit cards the best you can get your hands on is the Adaptec 15xx series. They are widely supported by *everything*, possibly except XP and Vista. You can boot from them, run CD-ROMs, etc.

None of these cards have the HD50 connector you are looking for. But converting from one format to another is not a big deal. You can do it with a small adapter, or a cable that has two different ends. Narrow to narrow conversions are fairly easy - things only get complicated when you try to attach a 'wide' device (16 bits) on a narrow cable.

For PCI there is the 2940 series. I'm using a 2940AU which is narrow and supports 'Ultra' speeds. (20MB/sec.) They are supported by everything.

Lastly, if your need is only occasional, have you looked at parallel port SCSI adapters? These will hang off of a parallel port and allow you connect SCSI devices. Any parallel port will do .. from vanilla nibble mode found on a PC 5150 all the way to ECC/EPP on a very modern machine. Just load some DOS device drivers, and you are on your way. Many of these are supported by Win95 and Win95. I use these on my PCjr and other DOS machines when I don't want to tear the machine open for a one-time data transfer.

LoserDave
February 24th, 2008, 07:39 AM
I have a whole box of adaptec ISA-slot SCSI cards (NEW) never used.

Their big cards its sad because no one can use them anymore and their brannew.
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?p=57097#post57097

mbbrutman
February 24th, 2008, 07:53 AM
Which models of Adaptec cards do you have? You might find some takers here ...

Micom 2000
February 26th, 2008, 04:43 AM
Well I have a PP Iomega Zip drive for most Utility uses and a Syquest 130 for the SCSI Motorola machines and some 2 or 3 SCSI cards on DOS boxes all with centronics.
But sometimes 100-120 megs isn't enough with so much of the newer apps. I acquired an IOMEGA JAZ 1meg a while back which has the D-sub narrow 50pin connector and even have a Centronics to 50 and a 50-50 cables but had none of the newer D-sub 50pin cards. I guess a PP to SCSI d-sub adapter would allow me more latitude but some of the prices I've seen are quite high for them and I'd only need the Jaz drive infrequently. It's cheaper to simply add some more SCSI cards. I can use the PP Iomega Zip for the 8-bitters.

Lawrence

Anonymous Coward
February 26th, 2008, 04:19 PM
I know there is at least one card in the 15xx series that has the HD50 connector. It is the 1542CP. I bought mine for $5 or $10 on epay a few months ago, but I think you've already ruled out epay.

Micom 2000
March 2nd, 2008, 04:53 AM
I know there is at least one card in the 15xx series that has the HD50 connector. It is the 1542CP. I bought mine for $5 or $10 on epay a few months ago, but I think you've already ruled out epay.

No I have no problem with EPay except when the prices go crazy. Thanks. I'll have to keep an eye open for a 1542CP

Lawrence

Druid6900
March 3rd, 2008, 02:27 PM
I think I might have a solution for you, L.

I have a Sysquest-type external unit. Everything works nicely but the drive, which seems to have some heads ripped off.

Now, if one was to replace the removable drive with a SCSI hard drive, one could just trot it around to those various and sundry computers with the "centronics-type" connectors.

The box has 2 of the connectors externally, a 50 pin cable to plug into the drive internally along with a cable to the ID jumper block and the ID is set by a push-button on the back next to a window that shows the ID.

If you put a 1GB SCSI unit in it, it should provide for a LOT of "moving stuff around"

Just a thought

afleetcommand
March 9th, 2008, 05:51 AM
I do have 4 matched Compaq 8m ram EDO simms if you want to make the trade. I also have a lot of parts and cables, but as one on the trailing end of Technology, these are of course older stuff. PM me if you're interested.

Lawrence


What I'm really looking for is the 32MB 72 pin simms that HP used in the 715 series machines...and if you had them I would swap. I have a pile of 72 pin simms from older PC's and for some reason the HP doesn't like them.